Quote: “Everybody in town seems to be really proud of New Mexico which awesome! Everybody’s rockin’ the Zia! Everybody’s feeling it. And it’s great! There is this specific pride to this state!”
Growing Up With Music
JAVIER SANDOVAL: My name is Javier Sandoval. I’m from Albuquerque, New Mexico. My mom is from Chihuahua; my dad is from Española. I’ve been playing music for about twenty years, and it’s actually twenty-three years, but I don’t wanna say that [laughs] …twenty-four years…I’m rounding down at this age. And, that’s it, man, that’s, you know, that’s my band. It’s excited to be playing this music, it’s pretty new.
MARCO SANDOVAL: Whoa, your band?
JAVIER AND BAND: [laughs] That’s a good one, keep going. I said “Keep the vibes good, man.”
ROBERT MIRANDA: Alright, my name’s Robert Miranda, born and raised in Albuquerque, twenty-eight years old, lived here my whole life. Grew up in Barelas, New Mexico; that’s Albuquerque, right over there by the river. I’ve been playing music for, about, twenty years now, I’d say. Let’s see what else. Parents are from here, grandparents are from here, great-grandparents are from here, so, well, that’s it.
MARCO: Hey, well, good for you. My name is Marco. I have the same story as Javier because I have the same mom and dad as Javier. So, I’ll save you all the time [laughs].
JAVIER: So, yeah, me and Marco, like he said, we’re brothers, so, ya know. We used to share a room, since, like age four.
MARCO: Until high school.
JAVIER: Yeah, until, about, I was like twenty. And then, bunk beds for life [laughs]. And then, Robert went to school with Marco. And then, the guy missing is our bass player, Chris Tickner, who’s at work right now. He works at the UNM Law Library, and he’s from, he’s from here. His mom’s from, like, Capitán, and his dad is from New York, I think. And he’s the missing person in this band. Chris Tickner, great bass player.
MARCO: So, what’s funny is, Robert used to come over after school, in high school, and we’d secretly jam my brother’s guitar, and he would be pissed hours later, like, he could, he could feel the oils on the neck, like, “Robert was here, huh?” Robert was…
ROBERT: It didn’t help that I, you know, we, we would snack on, you know, Hot Cheetos, all that stuff, and then go play.
JAVIER: My cheeto-strings. [laughs] Why are my hands red?!
JAVIER: That’s true, so yeah, Marco and Robert used to jam in a band in high school called Ask The Man. Is that correct?
ROBERT: Yeah, dude, no.
JAVIER: Didn’t you? Well, you did, and you used to play with him sometimes.
MARCO: I was on with their last show. I killed the band [laughs].
ROBERT: I’ve killed a couple bands, too, don’t worry.
MARCO: We had a different band for a while called, Truxas.
JAVIER: Was he in that?
MARCO: With an ‘x’. Truxas.
ROBERT: I wasn’t a part of that band.
JAVIER: That’s what I thought, he wasn’t in it.
ROBERT: No, but we all, we all played music together, and whenever I needed a percussionist or somebody who played cajón, even, or just somebody to record with, you know, Marco was always there. Always felt like, out of a lot of the drummers that I’ve had experiences with, he was always, like, the smoothest, very complex, very thought-provoking, you know, brought a lot of different styles out of me that I didn’t know I had.
ROBERT: Time-out, so, I grew up listening to a lot of Javier’s music that he did with his brother and was super influenced by his music, growing up, alongside Mike’s [Mike Garcia from The Big Spank] music where we are right now, doing this interview. I feel like, I seeked a lot from them being, you know, a few years older than me, their styles and what they wrote about, and their approach on writing music, and took that, with a grain, of course, ’cause, you know, I’m not them, and I wanna do my own thing, but I definitely enjoyed what you were putting down, and I’m picking it up now, so… [laughs]
JAVIER: Thank you. Picking up what I’m putting down.
MARCO: This is a beautiful therapy session.
JAVIER: That being said, I hate everything you play. I’m just kidding.
Putting Together La Llorona
JAVIER: So the background is me and Marco started playing in our first band Hot Fever when I was nine years old. Marcos was probably five, six?
MARCO: Six, I think.
JAVIER: …six? A la!
MARCO: Six months. [laughs]
JAVIER: It just happened, my best friend from elementary school, his parents were musicians. I just got lucky that I wanted to play music and my best friend and his parents are musicians. And so, we were, like, we decided Marco, you’re gonna be the drummer, and Marco’s like, “Ok.” He couldn’t even reach the pedals, we had to put boxes. So that first band, so me and Marco been playing music since we started, since we began.
MARCO: For the record, I still can’t reach the pedals [laughs].
JAVIER: Ambiente! I’m just kidding [laughs] Okay, so there we go. So, me and Marco been playing music since, since we began, you know, began playing music. And then, Marco got his first drumset when I was about fourteen. So, you [to Marco] were, like, ten…
JAVIER: …ten, I guess.
JAVIER: So, he got his first drumset that he owned that was his, and we had it at the house, and my parents let us play, which was crazy, you know. I’m sure they weren’t fond of it [laughs], ’cause we were upstairs, in the attic, and it was just like, the whole house would just make, a bunch of noise. So, we’d play up there…
ROBERT: What, what was the band name?
JAVIER: That was called, at that point, we didn’t have a band name. It was just me and Marco jamming after Hot Fever was the first band.
JAVIER: So, that’s how we started, me and Marco have always been playing. Through high school we were recording on four-track cassettes and just, like, making records. That’s how Robert was hearing it. And then, I guess, maybe, when I graduated high school, and I became like nineteen years old, I started, eighteen, nineteen. I started playing local bands, and just playing bass and guitar. And then, we started, we wanted to start our own band, like we should play, we should be playing. So we started, Con Razón, was our first band. We started performing that around town.
[Other musicians enter the room]
CRISTIAN: Oh, yeah?
JAVIER: And so, this guy right here, Cristian, actually. That guy right there was the guy who gave us our first show in town [laughs].
ROBERT: Full circle, we’re going full circle here.
JAVIER: Well, that’s what, that’s what I was telling, I was telling Mike [Garcia] because that guy, the guy who just showed up, he’d introduced all three of us to the guys we’re playing with now. And so, but he got us our first show, he’s another legend. And…
MARCO: One quick sidenote, about music in Albuquerque, which I really love is that we all know each other and we all support each other. It’s not, it’s not a competition.
JAVIER: It’s a million different side bands.
MARCO: In fact, I’ve only met one person in Albuquerque who’s been competitive, and try to be, like, “I’m better than you,” but I won’t mention his name.
But, in fact, it’s just, we support each other, artists really love what each other do and I find that really beautiful about Albuquerque and humans in New Mexico.
JAVIER: So then, what else? Oh yeah, so, like, we started Con Razón, we started playing gigs with, Victor Magallanes, who’s, another friend of these guys. He went to school with them, their age. Then we started playing. It was a three-piece, and we were playing around town, opening for bands. It was, it was cool, and then, we recorded a record. Right, i don’t know if we actually – took us a while to record a record. And then, that band broke up. ’cause it was just, like, I was frustrated with them. They were young, they were still in high school, like they would show up to some gigs and they couldn’t play because it was a bar, you know.
And, I’d be, like, “Oh, and, I still have to play,” and I’d be like, “Well, I’m by myself, I don’t really wanna play by myself.” And, you know, it was a few times of that. It was just frustrating, So then, I gave up on those guys. I said, “Yeah, this isn’t working.” And then, I had met Mike because I was playing Concepto Tambor at that point. I was playing with a lot of different bands, in addition to Con Razón. And, I had the opportunity to go on tour, and, so, I did. I was like, cool, this sounds like a great idea. And so, I dropped out of college [laughs] and went on tour with Mike. We bought…
MARCO: That’s a good idea.
JAVIER: …an old school bus. it was a good idea. I don’t regret it. But, my parents regret it. Anyway, yeah so, we bought a school bus, converted it into an RV with The Big Spank and we toured. That was ten years ago. I was just telling Mike, it was ten years ago this month that we’ve met, that I started playing with him.
ALL: [murmurs of amazement, shock]
JAVIER: Yeah, the first time I wrote the first song with him.
And so, I did that for a few years, and doing that, I realized I was playing somebody else’s music, their songs, and I was serving them, and that was great, but at the same time, it wasn’t. I wasn’t able to write songs or perform my own songs.
Although, I mean, they were letting me participate in that, it wasn’t my – it wasn’t the same. So, I got nostalgic for our old band. We got back together and we included Victor’s brother, Pablo, who was in high school, then, at that point. You have to be in high school to join our band.
JAVIER: And then, so, he joined the band, became Con Razón, when we regrouped, I wanted to call it La Llorona And I said, “Hey, we should, like, you know, we got Pablo, now, let’s call it La Llorona – start something new,” and these guys were like, “Nah, let’s keep it Con Razón, let’s just keep Con Razón.” So I was like, okay, I got outvoted, so I was, like, cool. And then, that became that. We did that for a few years, and then, Robert came in, maybe, three or four years into that. And he became our guitar player slash instrumentalist.
MARCO: And we broke up right away. As soon as Robert…
JAVIER: No, he was in for, like, a year. And then…
ROBERT: I wasn’t in high school, by the way.
JAVIER: He was the only member who wasn’t in high school to join this band.
JAVIER: And so La Llorona became a band because Con Razón, again, same sort of road blocks was hitting, just certain people weren’t as dedicated, I guess, or whatever, as into it. So we were like, “Okay, well let’s play with people who are into it. Who’s into it?” This guy was into it [pointing to Robert], that guy’s my brother [pointing to Marco], so make him be into it…
JAVIER: And then Chris Tickner’s our bass player for The Big Spank. That’s our, now I’ve been playing bass – music with him for about ten years.
ROBERT: Yeah, and he’s, he plays…
JAVIER: Yeah, he plays a bunch of bands.
ROBERT: Bunch of bands around Albuquerque. He’s like the bass player of Albuquerque.
JAVIER: He plays in five bands. So we have one day, maybe two days where we can get rehearsal with him ’cause he’s busy every other day doing other rehearsals and playing. And so, he’s awesome – [laughs] that’s why he playing in so many bands. So, Con Razón, wasn’t taking off, and we had written a bunch of new songs. We wanted to record them, put it out as a record, and it just wasn’t gonna happen, so then I said, “Screw it.” Like, “I’m going solo, like, I’m just gonna do it myself.” And so I said, Marco, “You in?” “Yeah.” “Robert, you in?” He’s like, “Yeah, I’ll help you, okay.”
ROBERT: You went solo?
JAVIER: I know.
MARCO: That’s going Gwen Stefani.
JAVIER: So, anyway, so I was just, like, “Screw the band, I’m just gonna do this myself.” And then, I got friends. Friends who were available. “Are you available to do these days?” “No, I can’t,” Okay, I’d call another friend. “Hey, can you play guitar?” “Yeah, yeah, yeah,” Cool. So we got, it was like ten different people on the album, the first album that we did. And so, we got, like, two main sessions and a bunch of overdubs at Chris Tickner’s house, our bass player’s house. And, at that point, it was just a one-off project. It was just, like, we’re gonna try to record these – I think we had fourteen songs – we’re gonna record all these fourteen songs, pick the best, and what the hell. So, so, that’s what we did, and…
ROBERT: That’s how a better experience came to be.
JAVIER: Yeah, man, so, what we do – I want to do what’s natural and also exciting for us, which is we do a lot of genre bouncing. So, like, before in our earlier bands, I feel like, we were always, like, what are you do? Oh, well we gotta do reggae. Oh, we gotta do this. We gotta do ska. Oh, we gotta do this. And this band, we’re like, ehh, that’s not really what’s natural to us, we like to play a lot of different kinds of music, a lot of different ways. And it’s original.
Javier:Yeah man, so what we do is what is natural and exciting for us. We do a lot of genre bouncing. Before in our earlier bands, we were always like “what do we do?” “Oh we gotta do Reggae.” “Oh we gotta do this.” “We gotta do Ska.” “We gotta do this.”
With this band, it’s not really what’s natural for us. We like to play a lot of different kinds of music in a lot of different ways. And it’s original.
Marco: A lot of times with different kinds of music the audience demands the genre for you. So they want to know what they’re getting into before the show even happens. Cause they wanna know what’s happening. Which is fine, I’m not criticizing that but for us what comes natural is not being in a genre. That’s our thing.
We don’t have a genre. We’re not purposefully trying to be different, it’s just that what comes naturally.
Javier: Exactly. “Oh, listen to this song I wrote.” This might sound more like Bill Withers 1972 and this song might sound more like Bob Dylan 1978. You know what I mean? That’s just how it’s kind of crackin’. But it’s fun because we like both. Whatever kind of gets you going is what gets us going. So we started calling our music “Oldiecore” because it is sort of inspired by Current/Classic Rock. Definitely, me with the Beatles is how I started. Beatles, Bob Dylan, all that kind of stuff back in the day. Brenton Wood, Marvin Gaye.
Marco: What’s cool right now is that I’ve noticed as I’m going out to bars, which I don’t do often, but I notice that 60’s and 70’s is coming back right now. It’s really hot. So, we’re way ahead of the curve. We’ve been ahead of the curve for like 20 years.
Javier: But what I think we do is fine. I think it’s great. I think it’s just a sign that we are part of the times as well.
Marco: We’re inspired by what’s been really good so far. We kind of skipped the 80’s and the 90’s [laughs].
Robert: But I still feel like we all have that background, too. You know, with punk rock and rock and roll music. We bring a little bit of edge here and there where it suits the needs of what we’re trying to accomplish together as a group.
The underlying thing is that it’s therapeutic for us.
First and foremost, on a personal level, it’s how we get through personal issues like school. The first time, the second time around now, getting back into it; it helps as an outlet to release a different side of my artistic background. Culturally, spiritually, these guys have been a part of music in strange ways. It has gotten weird a lot of the times.
But I feel like we have an understanding when it comes to how we write. It is very natural, it’s very fluid. I feel we’ve made a good transition with La Llorona coming out of where Con Razón died and where La Llorona sprung out of.
Javier: Con Razón and La Llorona both of those things, why are they in Spanish? La Llorona specifically is a myth. Not necessarily just to hear but it is a Latin American myth.
Marco: I think a lot of people when they hear La Llorona and they come with no expectations to our shows they think we’re going to have a lot of music in Spanish. Right now, we’re kind of new. We have two songs in Spanish but the majority is in English. La Llorona reflects our bi-national heritage. It is our bi-lingual heritage and our New Mexican heritage.
Javier: That’s who we are. That is true. We didn’t really put any thought into it except that that’s who we are. We like the myth of it. But it is true, there is a side, there is that bi-product of the name and the expectations that it creates. That’s like any name, right? It’s like branding but I think that it’s cool. It is cool that we are called La Llorona but then we play like Oldiecore or whatever it is. I think it’s cool. Then also we do a straight Cumbia Rock and some weird stuff.
But yeah, that’s just who we are.
La Llorona is also a myth that kind of unites Latin America. We don’t know where it originates. We think Mexico, definitely it’s present in New Mexico. There’s a version of it all around South America. So it’s something that unites us all across the continent.
Robert: There’s a lot of different versions of the myth. That kind of represents our different diversity too as well as artistic-wise. We all come from different backgrounds in music. I feel like Chris has his own style and personal preference as to how he wants to play bass. I have my fingers that do something that comes from somewhere else. I feel like we all have that diversity just within our group. I find that very unique.
It was great to find these guys because I always trust my brother the most. We learned to play together so we have a certain connection.
And then, Robert again, he was a multi-instrumentalist with Con Razón so he was able to do keyboards, guitar. He is able to play most things. I do, too, but I play a few things but he is really good at it. What’s nice about having him in the band, I could have a very vague idea and tell it to him. He can then interpret it and create some cool stuff. Probably different than what I anticipated but probably definitely better. Definitely interesting. And Chris is the same way. I don’t have to tell these guys much. I just show them really basic things that I have and then all of a sudden it blows up into this other thing. The music is supposed to be the easy part. With other bands that I’ve been in, that necessarily isn’t always the case. It’s like, well, I don’t really want to necessarily put in all my energy into that. I wanna be in something that’s something easy to create. That’s the whole point.
Javier: Albuquerque is great. The music scene is doing really well right now. There’s a lot of places to play. There’s a lot of great musicians playing most nights of the week if not every night of the week, local. There are places paying them [musicians] whereas in the past, that wasn’t always the case. Maybe you could play once in awhile and you weren’t getting paid or not very much. So that’s awesome in terms of making that as a living or a thing that you want to do.
It’s inspiring as well because there’s so many people supporting each different band. Each different band is doing a little different thing. Similar things like, “Hey, we all love New Mexico and we’re all doing this.” Everybody in town seems to be really proud of New Mexico which is [expletive] awesome. Everybody’s rockin’ the Zia. Everybody’s feeling it. And it’s great. And everybody here responds to that because there is this specific pride to this state. I think each state has something like that. Maybe, I’m not from there.
We’re not trying to be from somewhere else.
Marco: We’re not trying to be anybody else. This is originating from New Mexico. It is not an emulation of anything.
Javier: We’re not trying to be L.A. We’re not trying to be Denver.
Robert: My experience playing out is that there’s a lot of modesty to every musician here in Albuquerque. They’re over the top in their own bubble but they’ve opened up to other ideas and unified via the Albuquerque scene. The strength I’ve seen. The way people just go out there and pour their hearts out. It’s like who they are on stage, that’s who they are. It’s not what they do as musicians. A lot of them have day jobs. A lot of them do other things. When they go on stage, they become this whole other being. It’s a beautiful thing to see. You could tell that they have all that angst and when they get on stage sometimes it just shows that they shine. There’s lots of that in every genre out here. I’ve had some great experiences playing out, terrible experiences. I got heckled the other night, that was kind of fun. It’s fun to mess around with those kind of people. They’re just drunk out in Albuquerque trying to give someone a hard time. At the end of the night, they have come up to me and talked to me.
Marco: I would say the music scene in Albuquerque in two words is: diverse and energetic. That’s it.
Javier: Me and some of my friends have talked about this. We used to tour a lot with The Big Spank, Fayuca was a band from Phoenix that we used to play with a lot. There’s a little bit of a difference. Phoenix is a bigger town. But what’s different about the West Coast … but the distance between cities. We got crews that have to go 8 hours before we get to the next big town, 5 hours, 6 hours. We got a lot of distance, a lot of space, a lot of gas to get there. So that’s a challenge to get out of here. At the same time it’s definitely opened up a lot. I’ve noticed that a lot of new bands here in town are doing that. “Hey, we’re going to be cruising up to Denver this weekend. We’re going to do Denver, Pueblo and Taos. We’re gonna go do Flagstaff, Phoenix.” You can do it. It can be done. People are doing it and so the challenge is just to make those connections with other cities and other bands but at the same time they wanna come out here because they wanna get out of their little town. So it’s just making those connections but it’s a lot easier with social media for sure. And if you just go to a show and there will be a band on tour and you’ll get to meet them. And you just say “Hey, what’s up? You guys wanna chill? Where do you guys live? Cool.” Just making connections but it’s definitely more possible. That was something we definitely talked about. Which is like East Coast, We did a tour of the East Coast a few times and it was like, “Hey we have to go to this other town and we can get there in an hour or two. Oh cool, well what are we going to do all day? Let’s go walking around.” So that’s one thing that’s different from the West.
Robert: That’s true because it’s like in every direction in 500 miles is the next town from Albuquerque.
Javier: It’s like literally geographically isolated. You know, you got wheels so you can cruise.
Robert: I haven’t ever been on tour and the experience of doing that. I feel like I haven’t experienced that issue yet. You know being stuck in Albuquerque playing small little open mics by yourself doesn’t really get you anywhere too fast. It’s fun and it helps you break out of the shell of performing. Especially when you have done everything from falling off the stage, chip my tooth on a microphone, to accidently knocking a girl out with my guitar. So getting over personal struggles performing wise and getting more comfortable in my skin on stage and trying to figure to out what the appropriate banter versus non-appropriate banter. Not trying to hurt anyone’s feelings which tends to happen sometimes.
Marco: My biggest challenge as a drummer is carrying my drums from place to place ‘cause their heavy [everyone laughing] and there is a lot of them to carry [back ground comments “Marco is a small guy remember.” “We are there to help him.” “We are there to load them up”].
Challenges For Burque Musicians
Javier: Yeah, well I did it, solely just doing music for about five years. and that was awesome, however I was poor, so basically I didn’t have a house, you know I was staying in my girlfriend’s house, I was staying at my parents’ house, I was staying at my friend’s house, you know what I mean. We had like an RV we made out of a school bus and I stayed there. And yeah that was awesome because we were free to do… I think I didn’t take advantage of that situation as much as I could have. Because I was free I had no, nothing tying me down. I didn’t go to school, I didn’t have a job. You could just play and I just played a bunch but I think we could have done it better, we did really know what we needed to do and the biggest thing is like getting your name out to other people. People who are interested in your music. We didn’t use the internet to our abilities, we didn’t get in touch with agents, and we didn’t these kind of things, right. We didn’t know about this type of things, per sé. We believed the myth that a lot of people do, which is, we play great and people are going to recognize that and then you’re going to be huge.
And that’s crazy [laughing]. But that’s what we were thinking, “We sound great I don’t understand why nobody is here. We played here last year, I don’t get it [sigh].” And so just like, that learning curve was really steep for us. So we were talking about starting another label right, with these different bands… Tesuque revolt, La Llorona and other bands. And I think there are other labels in town, I think other bands and other clusters of bands do that similar type of thing. And I think that’s what needs to happen, how can you help, help each other, and get the word out beyond our little circle of friends, you know what I mean. And that’s definitely a challenge.
Marco: So for me, being an artist, can be kind of difficult because you need to go out and generate money. And being an artist doesn’t always generate money. So the reason I keep doing it and go back to it, even though there are people telling me it is waste of time, is because it doesn’t necessarily feed me in the terms of it feeding my wallet but it feeds my soul. Like I have to do it otherwise I’m not happy if I’m not making art.
Javier: This band, became a band like in March and we just did our first show in November, we are not making… and I didn’t make much money. But yeah we did make money. It’s in the band fund. Sorry man. But I totally agree, I mean we just keep doing it. That’s what happens, I have a day job but I keep doing. It’s like a compulsion every day. So my friend calls me and says, “You want to play guitar.” And it’s like, “Yes, awesome. I got new songs. Alright.” You know what I mean. I call this guy and he’s always showing up.
And that was some of the problems that with our other band that I have said, some people didn’t show up, didn’t have that compulsion. These guys kept showing up so I kept them. They stayed.
Marco: So making art can fulfill you if you do it on your own, but there’s also a percentage of what you do that has to do with connecting with the audience. So there’s a loop that’s created when you’re making something and if somebody responds to it and vibrates with it then it feeds you as well, and then we just keep feeding off each other and it elevates us all. So I think that’s why I make art because of the connection that you can make with other people and with each other and as humanity, we make this connection that just elevates us.
Robert: To piggyback on some things, we have to do other things to make money in this world. I recently got into nursing school. So a lot of my time is put into that which is kind of unfortunate, but I do enjoy helping people. I was a teacher for a long time, an education assistant. I have bachelors in Biology and throughout that time I I did that so, so I feel like five years from now I will still be doing music because that’s who I am as an individual and I spoke about it like, when your buddy calls you says I want you on the record or even shoot ideas back and forth, I feel like I’ll still be doing that you know. Put me to rest as soon I am unable to do that, as soon as my fingers are unable to work the same way.
Javier: Then he will start using other parts [laughs].
Robert: Then I will start using other parts [laughing] elbows or whatever. So five years from now I hope that I feel like I want to continue my education, I want to continue my spirituality which is my music. And I found a good niche with La Llorona with Javier and Marco and Chris. I hope that five years from now we can still put out good music and collaborate with wonderful musicians that are the Albuquerque scene.
Marco: I have simple dreams. That we are better musicians, that our band is a lot better, we are a lot tighter and closer to what we want to achieve as a group. Honestly, I don’t plan that far ahead, five years, because I really believe in living in the moment and not planning too far ahead because otherwise you’re kind of cutting yourself off to different opportunities that may arise in the moment. So I have a plan for maybe the next few hours that’s about it.
Javier: He needs to go home we know that [laughing].
Javier: For me as far as the band I agree with Robert. I’m going to be playing music as long as I can, as long as performing in the band. I don’t know the goal for me was not necessarily to perform. My goal was to create new music and have people who are willing to create that new music together and that’s what we have. We have written songs in so short period of time. And it comes so natural. I was saying the music should be the easy part and it definitely is you know. That all I really care about as long as we can keep creating music. Having fun with it that’s enough for me.
Javier: One thing I noticed about playing a lot of different shows, when you set up a show you need like four bands right, four or five. When you’re picking bands, you are picking bands that will have a good draw, that’s like the commercial side of it, we just want people to show up. And then you’re picking bands that have similar vibes, but not necessarily similar music. Bands that are into exploring, bands that you like so you can have bands that like a ska band a rock band a reggae band…
Marco: Quick shout out. Good strong rope. We played our first show with them a couple of weekends ago, and it’s a similar vibe but it’s not the same thing but we really complemented each other a lot.
Javier: They are like an Americana rock band. I hope they [the audience] can like give the other bands a chance, like maybe you came to see this band that you really like a lot, but this other band doesn’t sound like them but maybe they are great, the band you came to see also respects that band a lot , because they are coming at it at with a different angle but they are coming up with amazing stuff, too. So like be open with that, what is that what’s going on?
Robert: I feel like we are very open-minded musicians and we like to talk about our different perspectives on things and we would like to embody that and like help brother bands sister bands who we play with, we are all here for the same reason, to feel good about the music, to feel good about the time the presence. I agree, especially at shows, it’s blissful to have different types of music all together and I feel like we have done that a lot with past bands and we’re starting to do it it with this one, I find that very refreshing.
Marco: I think the vibe we are looking for when we make a show is that we want to play with people that are open-minded, and don’t necessarily have a loyalty to genre but have a loyalty to making a good time and making good music, whatever that looks like and progressing together and spreading good vibes.